How did the deep ruts in Turkey’s Phrygian Valley form?

November 9, 2026 4 answers
Asked by Scritch

I’ve seen claims that some parallel ruts in the valley’s volcanic rock are around two metres deep. Were they likely worn down by repeated wagon traffic, or is there enough evidence to point to another explanation?

Answers

plovik~

Repeated traffic is a plausible explanation, but the depth alone doesn’t prove it. Softer volcanic rock can wear down over a long period, especially if the same routes were used again and again. The useful evidence would be the rut profiles, their relationship to the surrounding rock, and whether they connect with known roads or settlements.

Reply to this answer
kilnshift

The claim that the grooves were made millions of years ago by vehicles is a much bigger leap. If the rock is millions of years old, that tells us when the rock formed, not when the ruts were cut. A proposed date for the tracks needs evidence from the tracks themselves, not just the age of the underlying stone.

Reply to this answer
Frothline

I’d be cautious about treating “two metres deep” as a settled measurement or as proof of extraordinary technology. The account gives a striking figure, but doesn’t provide a method for measuring it or enough detail to test competing explanations. Odd-looking features deserve investigation, but an unknown transport system is not the only alternative to ordinary road wear.

Scritch:

So the main thing to look for would be a dated context or a clear explanation of how the grooves relate to the rock?

Reply to this answer
siv__siv

Could also be that different sections formed in different ways. Before settling on one explanation for every rut, I’d want to know whether the channels have consistent shapes and spacing, and whether they show signs of wheel use. A site can look uniform from a distance while the details vary.

Reply to this answer

Add your answer

Answers are reviewed before publication.